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hi Georgie what a nice boat

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do you want him oh yes please

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look like a nice boy do you want a

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balloon too Georgie I'm not supposed to

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take stuff from strangers oh well I'm

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penny wise can see plow nothing how we

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aren't strangers are we I should get

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hi guys Ryan sprek here and this is a

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very special episode of somewhere in the

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skies as I'm sure you're well aware the

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highly anticipated film it premiered

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late last week to much acclaim and I

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like many others flocked to the theater

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to see it now as a very big Stephen King

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fan I had high hopes and expectations

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for this remake inserted my good friend

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and colleague Andrew Sanford whom you've

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heard on the show before so after our

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viewings we sat down to discuss the film

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in depth and this is what came of it I

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think it goes without saying this is a

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very spoiler heavy discussion so you've

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been warned if you haven't seen the film

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yet I highly suggest going out and

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seeing it before listening and if you

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have I hope you had a terrifyingly good

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time like we did so sit back while we

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discuss it

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directed by Andre machete and starring

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fen Wolford Sophia Lewis and Pennywise

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himself bill skarsgård god I hate clowns

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hey guys Ryan Sprague here from

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somewhere in the skies and this is new

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for us this is the first episode where

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we will not be covering UFOs or the

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paranormal per se we will be talking

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sort of about the supernatural today I

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am back with mr. Andrew Sanford who you

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guys have heard on the show before and

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we are fresh off our viewing of it ad

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you how you doing my man Ryan Ryan Ryan

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the I'm I it will be a few more times

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that I see it but I will get bill scars

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guards voice down his voice yes many

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wise voice the youngest I think of the

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you're not a specialist on the scars

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scars alright I took a course it was

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like a three week course I I got to

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scale and then I was like this is enough

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for me Community College

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stellen stellen Scarlett yeah it was a

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community oh yeah absolutely okay

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it's like Chris Rock said a slap $5 down

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and I went in and I was like let me get

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my learn on you saw this movie in New

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York I saw it in Hollywood so we

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probably learn very similar experiences

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I would assume was it a very lively

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crowd at your viewing you know what it

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was I went to a 34th Street theater and

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familiar with New York you have here

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like sections broken up of Midtown and

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theaters are on 42nd Street by Lincoln

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theater down on 34th don't get me wrong

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there there are a lot of movie theaters

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but those are what I would say would be

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of those so while I didn't have a super

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full theater they were into it which was

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nice and nobody was too there was a few

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people they were chatting a little bit

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but they were I I always have a little

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bit more leniency when that when I can

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tell they're clearly like enjoying

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themselves and that's kind of why

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they're talking that's like you know I

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III that I'm fine with its when

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somebody's just like so you know I just

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figure if we go to Chipotle after this

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but they were into it and what I loved

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and I haven't seen something like this

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in a while and I'm sure we'll get into

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this a little bit more later they they

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jump scares like ooh like a lot of what

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movie went a log of those years became

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more like uncomfortable screams that's

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pretty fantastic absolutely I mean so I

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of I get I get very hesitant to go to

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openings or big big movie events because

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one jerk who's like talking the whole

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time or like you said just like doing it

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to be noticed no I went to the ArcLight

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theater in Hollywood and this place was

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massive like I don't know how

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many people this holds I'm guessing like

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six seven hundred it was freaking huge

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and I'm like oh great so the odds are

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against me that someone's gonna be an

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[\h__\h] for this whole movie I was wrong

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I mean it was nice it was incredible it

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was a communal experience everyone had a

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great time

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it is funny however the girl I sat next

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to so okay the movie hasn't even started

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people are still walking in trying to

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of people don't want to come and watch

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half an hour of trailers so we're in the

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first trailer the movies not starting

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for another 20 minutes and this girl is

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just vocally - everyone saying are you

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come on time are you kidding me are you

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kidding me right now so while I well I

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am like this person in the sense that I

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hope people don't come late to the movie

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I was like you are really really yes

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happening first of all first of all you

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as you made very clear you're in a

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theater that seats hundreds yes there is

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statistically there are going to be late

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people statistically and that's what we

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have received reserved seats for now I

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one thing I Ida I think we can talk to

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just about it the movie going experience

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for a little bit lager I don't know how

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I really don't seem here's it's the new

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it's it's the new sliced bread yeah you

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reserved seats that the movies are the

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new sliced bread I love it there's no

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pressure there's no holding seats for

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people you know hopefully you get like

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if you're going with one other person

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you get that little two person section

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don't know elbow room you know what I

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mean it just absolutely it makes the

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experiment experiment experience much

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better yeah and they I mean they that's

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that's what they have to do now you have

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to not like going to the movies can't

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seem like a chore or people definitely

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won't go Labor Day weekend had the worst

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weekends since the early 90s with the

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number one movie in America being hit

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man's bodyguard oh my god yeah that's a

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oh don't get me wrong I and I on a

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recent episode halfway inside of a black

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man we didn't talk about the fact that

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myself and my good friend Sean Lanigan

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did contribute to hit man's body guard

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making some kind of money but I did not

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assume that it was gonna keep going but

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there was nothing else out yeah

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movies and that's why it is cleaning up

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right now it debuted thirteen point five

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million dollars for a midnight screening

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for an r-rated movie

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unbelievable a remake nonetheless it

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beat Deadpool Wow yeah see that's great

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see I'm glad to see and I'm looking

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right now and it's got a 90 percent on

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Rotten Tomatoes yeah man it's pretty

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impressive that's impressive and we'll

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get into that because you and I spoke

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earlier about some qualms we have with

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this movie but overall just a very fun

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time at the movies perfect for a big I'm

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all for now actually want to see what

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the budget was for this movie 35 million

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is not a lot of money especially for and

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and that's one of the things that'll

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come back later the more we talk about

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especially dairy the town that this

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movie takes place in specifically you

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can tell that this movie did the best

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that it could with a very thirty-five

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million dollars is not a lot of money

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these days to make a movie that needs to

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be spectacle worthy but it's gonna make

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that budget back tenfold now don't get

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me wrong thirty-five is a lot for a

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horror movie especially these days when

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people are running on like the Blume

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house method which is like make

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something for three million dollars and

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then it makes ninety yeah yeah exactly

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exactly but Wow thirty five million yeah

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it's it's but it's cleaning up and it's

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gonna do really well for an r-rated

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movie that's nuts

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and it's exciting for me that hopefully

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between this and all the conjuring

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movies and stuff like that that studios

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big the mythical horror type movies even

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if they leave that out yes I also saw oh

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man I don't think we've talked in a

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while right you're very familiar with my

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love of the first kind

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during movie and my obsession with the

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Warrens that came after that I finally

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saw conjuring 2 the other day oh my god

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I was not a fan agreed yes for boys not

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seen muttering - do not waste your time

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oh man I was

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oh boy and don't get me wrong there was

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a lot of there were a lot of problems

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with it as a movie but I I i remember

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leaving the first conjuring and be like

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i want to see more movies where the

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Warrens

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really like go out and like scooby-doo

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it up and just write solve a bunch of

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mysteries and I was that started to

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happen in this movie and I was like I

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don't want this but so it so it yeah I

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wanted to ask you this because you'd

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mentioned that year how where how how

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big a part does it play in your life if

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any at all it was the first book of

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Stephen King's that I ever picked up so

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I was I believe 11 years old where and

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in my barbershop in Syracuse New York I

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would go every second Saturday of the

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month with my father to get my hair cut

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and it was on the bookshelf at my barber

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shop so every every once a month or

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what-have-you I would read a small

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section of this book every time I went

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so after about what four years at five

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was interesting because I was getting

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older as I was reading the book and as

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we know youth and growing up have a lot

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to do with this story

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um salud now I believe I started reading

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it at way too young an age but it

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definitely got me hooked on Stephen King

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I've read so much of his work since then

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I'm a fan of some of his movies there's

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some contention with a lot of them but I

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would say 11 years old is when I was

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first introduced to this story how about

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you I make memories of seeing the

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miniseries when I was very very little I

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do I and I it's funny my parents had

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kind of a like a wild west type attitude

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but I got with the stuff that I saw when

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I was younger

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they say I have an older brother he's

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about four years older than me and the

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stuff that he wanted to see we usually

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saw at first you know that would change

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but he we would see I saw a lot of stuff

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early and I remember seeing it very very

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young and being really scared of that

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movie and then at one point my younger

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II brought it became something that me

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and my younger brother would go and get

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from the video store constantly like

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almost every outing we would just watch

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this over and over again to the point

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where we still to this day we'll just

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text each other random quotes from it

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and I will I tried to read the book at

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one point when I was younger I was

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probably around like 12 or 13 and I

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don't I think there's no way I would

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have finished it and I actually just I

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remember a lot of stuff from the

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beginning of the book and then I

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actually read it finally read it all the

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way through this past summer and

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finished it the day before I saw the

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movie but I am I have a huge Stephen

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King fan I actually have been watched I

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watched what did I watch yesterday

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before I went to see I watched room 237

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the documentary about all those

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ridiculous conspiracy theories about the

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shining right yeah I watched it the dark

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half last week which is on Hulu right

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now which I don't know if you're

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familiar with that one but you

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absolutely have to watch it especially

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as a writer and I watched the stand

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recently I loved Steve a love love love

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stick and I was very excited for this

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movie and I will say I was what's oh it

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definitely did not meet my expectations

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but I was not disappointed if that makes

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sense absolutely no I'm with you on that

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no I'm sure some people will disagree

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with us but this is not the buzz that

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this movie has created had a lot to do

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with the marketing I think and know now

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that the movies coming out I think we're

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going to see a maybe maybe a slight

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decline in the quality of ratings and

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reviews that come out on it because it

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is it's definitely flawed there's

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there's definitely some issues but what

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we'll get into that I yeah I think what

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would be cool is for those who had don't

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know what this story is about everyone

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know

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was Tim Curry the clown but um I'm gonna

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put the pressure on you here man would

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you mind giving us like a brief synopsis

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of what this story is about this

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thousand page book sure absolutely so

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about 1,300 no no no no a little less

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than 1,200 well less than 1,200 pages so

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essentially there is a it starts off

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with a young child who was murdered and

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it sets off a string back in 1957 and it

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sets off a string of events where this

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group of kids who are brought together

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this one summer

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some of them friends before some of them

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not and they find out that there's this

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evil entity that resides in their town

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that is feasting on children and this

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connects to events 20 now I I will say I

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want to say right here that even kind of

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discussing the story of the book and

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gives spoilers for the movie yes no yes

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boiler spoiler alerts from here on in

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yes especially when discussing the book

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because for those who may not be

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familiar with it the property that is

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being presented right now in the movie

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is only half of the story in the book

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the events of these people as children

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discovering that there's this entity

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feeding on children work as flashbacks

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to a main story which is 27 years after

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that young boy is killed where the

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murders started up again and this one

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guy who stayed behind calls on all his

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friends to return and that's when they

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start to remember the events of their

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childhood and them having to take on

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this man Evelyn bill being and it is

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very much a story about childhood and

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how it shapes who we become as people

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and then also how we deal with certain

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ugliness that it's you know like Stephen

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King it's all about a small-town

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ugliness and yeah and a lot of it also

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is just a big old it's a ghost story and

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it's also a monster story and it's it's

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anything that would have frightened kids

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in the 50s that's kind of what he was

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going for

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um but yeah so it's about

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kids this ragtag group of kids the

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losers Club having to come together to

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fight this evil bill it being both in

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their youth and as adults and it's it's

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pretty fantastic

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having just finished the book it was

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it's it's a real phenomenal story then

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he concocted and it's it's got so much

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which is why my expectations were so

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high when I especially her and I nabbed

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some friends who do reviews and who

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would seen in early screenings in the

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movie and they said it's very faithful

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and they do a really good job and I

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think it's just one of those things

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where I have to realize like unless they

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do a ten episode miniseries which almost

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happened at one point back and before

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the original miniseries they're not

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gonna be able to touch on everything so

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my problems lie with some other choices

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that they make but we'll get into that

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but yeah that's pretty much the story

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that's my long drawn out way of

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explaining what the story is

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I think it was pretty good and concisely

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right oh thank you no this is an updated

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version we should point that out that

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this 2017 version is in the 80s so we

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bumped it up a few decades which I

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thought was awesome all the good choice

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absolutely now we had the New Kids on

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the Block played a big part in this oh

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it was great Oh aesthetically

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aesthetically I don't think this movie

429
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made a single misstep it would

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everything looked beautiful everybody

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looked like it looked like it was 1989

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now don't get me wrong I was born in

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1989 but seen a lot of movies from 1989

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they hit that look and they get that

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feel

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I remember turning to my fiancee at one

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point and saying like I love Eddie

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shorts because he had these like little

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red bike shorts with like little

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rainbows looks like it just it was great

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it reminded me a lot stranger things to

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be completely honest or well I mean

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stranger things gets a lot from it yes

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this cyclical man absolutely and we even

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have one of the actors who's in both oh

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my god that can fin I have the Wikipedia

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page pulled up just so I don't but his

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names but it's because a one thing I

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will say

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every person in this caste deserves a

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round of applause I thought the acting

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was phenomenal top to bottom there

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wasn't a single miscast person even when

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they had some like subpar writing they

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still you know if those kids were good

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absolutely didn't wolf wolf heart thin

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wolf heart yeah a little Richie Tozier

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no my favorite was a Jack razor the the

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hypochondriac kid I see well so here's

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my question and that was something where

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there were some details that they

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changed that were there that were odd to

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me like right from the beginning they

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have they introduced Mike Hanlon the

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black kid as having a being watched over

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by his grandfather who tells them about

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the things in this town that is complete

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like a detail that for some reason i I'm

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not sure what they did maybe so it's not

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just like every kid dealing with their

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parents but like his his parents are

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fully alive at during the offense of

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this a better transpiring in the book

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and in the original miniseries so the

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bigger his grandfather estranged and

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another thing did strange is they kind

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of took Stan Lee who was the Jewish kid

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and made it so he I don't know they kind

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of stripped a lot of details away from

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him because I know they have Eddie who

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is the hypochondria at the one who has

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the pills than the placebos and stuff

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like that yes but then you so you have

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him as the hypochondriac but then

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Stanley is also supposed to be like a

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germaphobe all of a sudden and it was a

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weird like there is that element to

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Stanley but because they didn't like

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really flesh out how much of Eddie's

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sickness was in his head it just kind of

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came out of nowhere right those two kind

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of blended together for me a little bit

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there was a little bit of that where I

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was starting to lose like they lost

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their individuality occasionally yeah

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yeah that's a good point

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a lot of people are also correlating

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this to stand by me like it's very

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similar in terms of having each young

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boy have very unique characteristics

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that make them stand out and make them a

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part of the group and I think you're

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right I think

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as the move as this 2017 movie goes on

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we did lose some of that they the

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character choices were not exactly what

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I think they were they were just there

508
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to move the plot along yes but again

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like you said the writing for this movie

510
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was not top-notch as for the acting and

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directing I can't imagine having to work

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with a cast this young and make this

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story so compelling so heartwarming and

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so absolutely terrifying as well so

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kudos to the director what is his name

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Andy pronouncing that correctly the

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other movie he did was mama which I have

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not seen actually but I've heard very

519
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good things about yes and what's

520
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interesting is I mean this movie went

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through one of those classic development

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held type situations where cary fukunaga

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who wrote and directed the first season

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of true detective and he did beasts of

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no nation he wrote and was supposed to

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direct the this movie so the first right

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and apparently a lot from his first

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draft carried over into this movie but

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there's also a lot that didn't because

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his first draft actually leaked online I

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would say like six months ago or

532
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something like that yeah yeah and

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there's definitely more what's

534
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interesting is and one of my biggest

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problems with the movie was that I did

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not feel that the town was enough of a

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character which is very important to the

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source material you really get to know

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dari by the end of the book and even the

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miniseries I felt and this one I feel

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like they didn't do that as much it

542
00:23:48,869 --> 00:23:46,070
could have been a budgetary issue but I

543
00:23:52,779 --> 00:23:48,879
know they also had to cut some

544
00:23:54,820 --> 00:23:52,789
flashbacks like a big part of the book

545
00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:54,830
and they do it like they do it a little

546
00:23:59,499 --> 00:23:56,960
bit more in the miniseries through Mike

547
00:24:03,909 --> 00:23:59,509
Hanlon where he's he does a lot of

548
00:24:05,139 --> 00:24:03,919
research to into the dairies past and

549
00:24:07,450 --> 00:24:05,149
all these different events that are

550
00:24:10,419 --> 00:24:07,460
going on and that stuff gets kind of

551
00:24:13,180 --> 00:24:10,429
glossed over in this movie which I

552
00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:13,190
thought was weird not only that but they

553
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:15,200
gave it to a different character you

554
00:24:18,430 --> 00:24:16,610
know we did

555
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:18,440
I mean Ben does some of that in the book

556
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:21,890
but it was kind of they they gave him

557
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:24,530
they really did not give Mike a lot to

558
00:24:30,669 --> 00:24:27,290
do in this movie except for be saved at

559
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:30,679
one point but I love that by the way the

560
00:24:39,610 --> 00:24:35,210
rock fight was pretty fantastic oh my

561
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:39,620
god that was awesome to have I love and

562
00:24:43,630 --> 00:24:41,600
it shows this dude's skill as a director

563
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:43,640
that like they build it up like this big

564
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:46,010
thing and then you the camera just pulls

565
00:24:49,650 --> 00:24:47,570
back and you see that it's just kids

566
00:24:51,419 --> 00:24:49,660
whipping rocks at each other right like

567
00:24:56,650 --> 00:24:51,429
each other

568
00:24:59,020 --> 00:24:56,660
great it's one of those moments in

569
00:24:59,620 --> 00:24:59,030
cinema where like you see this an

570
00:25:03,010 --> 00:24:59,630
ant-man

571
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:03,020
to where like you when you zoom in on a

572
00:25:07,299 --> 00:25:05,690
scenario it's so epic and big and scope

573
00:25:09,210 --> 00:25:07,309
and then when you get the broader

574
00:25:13,150 --> 00:25:09,220
picture it looks so small in comparison

575
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:13,160
which is wonderful you know that

576
00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:15,410
perception alone just makes for great

577
00:25:18,789 --> 00:25:16,880
humor and that's another thing about

578
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:18,799
this movie I think a lot of people are

579
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:20,480
coming out saying that was more funny

580
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:24,770
than anything sure scary as hell do not

581
00:25:28,260 --> 00:25:26,210
get me wrong there are some moments in

582
00:25:31,539 --> 00:25:28,270
this movie that were absolutely

583
00:25:34,289 --> 00:25:31,549
terrifying not many but there were some

584
00:25:37,090 --> 00:25:34,299
that really left my audience at least

585
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:37,100
completely silent or cringing in their

586
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:39,919
seats they they really earned that our

587
00:25:44,909 --> 00:25:42,290
rating in at least as far as like

588
00:25:48,669 --> 00:25:44,919
violence against children is concerned

589
00:25:50,650 --> 00:25:48,679
and having kids act like you know kids

590
00:25:52,299 --> 00:25:50,660
especially from the late 80s like they

591
00:25:55,030 --> 00:25:52,309
swore and they smoked cigarettes and

592
00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:55,040
never lose one of them did you know

593
00:26:01,000 --> 00:25:58,250
nervous of meeting a girl for the first

594
00:26:03,010 --> 00:26:01,010
time like everything every element of

595
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:03,020
like a young man's life was definitely

596
00:26:07,570 --> 00:26:05,570
there you know we have one female

597
00:26:09,370 --> 00:26:07,580
character basically in this whole movie

598
00:26:11,950 --> 00:26:09,380
which I think she really stood on her

599
00:26:15,580 --> 00:26:11,960
own and did a wonderful job she was

600
00:26:18,490 --> 00:26:15,590
great and I was really at one point

601
00:26:22,030 --> 00:26:18,500
because they're there so they took some

602
00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:22,040
like sweeping changes that like for

603
00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:24,080
instance having Georgie at the very

604
00:26:30,010 --> 00:26:26,110
beginning the child is killed get like

605
00:26:31,870 --> 00:26:30,020
taken which I didn't really like I I

606
00:26:33,490 --> 00:26:31,880
Bill's motivations in the main

607
00:26:36,430 --> 00:26:33,500
characters motivations well main

608
00:26:38,620 --> 00:26:36,440
quote-unquote in the source material are

609
00:26:40,299 --> 00:26:38,630
a little bit more noble it's more of

610
00:26:41,890 --> 00:26:40,309
like because they know he knows full

611
00:26:44,169 --> 00:26:41,900
well that his brother has been killed

612
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:44,179
and in this one they make it it's his

613
00:26:47,290 --> 00:26:45,890
brothers been taken and Bill doesn't

614
00:26:48,970 --> 00:26:47,300
think he's been killed so he's on a

615
00:26:50,530 --> 00:26:48,980
search to try to prove that his brother

616
00:26:51,970 --> 00:26:50,540
isn't killed and on the way discovers

617
00:26:55,390 --> 00:26:51,980
that he should take out this clown and

618
00:26:58,510 --> 00:26:55,400
it was an odd it felt like an odd choice

619
00:27:02,020 --> 00:26:58,520
to me and then they doubled down on that

620
00:27:04,299 --> 00:27:02,030
by having Pennywise abduct Beverley at

621
00:27:06,700 --> 00:27:04,309
one point the only female character and

622
00:27:09,070 --> 00:27:06,710
I got really nervous for a second that

623
00:27:12,340 --> 00:27:09,080
she was gonna be just like a damsel in

624
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:12,350
distress exactly um until they made it

625
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:15,890
very clear that she was taken because he

626
00:27:21,340 --> 00:27:18,320
couldn't hurt her because she wasn't

627
00:27:23,590 --> 00:27:21,350
afraid of him that was a nice touch I I

628
00:27:25,540 --> 00:27:23,600
was nervous and then they kinda they

629
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:25,550
pulled it back especially since she

630
00:27:29,799 --> 00:27:28,250
liked cuz it also plays back into she's

631
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:29,809
the first one that's able to hurt him

632
00:27:35,260 --> 00:27:32,090
because she's like not afraid yep

633
00:27:37,060 --> 00:27:35,270
but then and we talked about this

634
00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:37,070
earlier because they don't really get

635
00:27:44,620 --> 00:27:41,929
into who or what it is you don't get as

636
00:27:46,210 --> 00:27:44,630
clear of a picture as to why they're

637
00:27:49,510 --> 00:27:46,220
able to hurt it things just kind of

638
00:27:52,299 --> 00:27:49,520
happen yeah yeah but there's there's

639
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:52,309
really no rules established there's no

640
00:28:00,490 --> 00:27:56,690
Oh which is knowledge behind what it is

641
00:28:02,169 --> 00:28:00,500
which is fine I you know in a way I

642
00:28:04,750 --> 00:28:02,179
think at least in this first chapter

643
00:28:06,820 --> 00:28:04,760
we're not gonna know what it is we're

644
00:28:08,650 --> 00:28:06,830
not concerned why it's doing this we

645
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:08,660
don't know how big a role it plays in

646
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:10,970
the town of Derry what I think is really

647
00:28:17,169 --> 00:28:14,090
interesting is how it feeds off of the

648
00:28:18,430 --> 00:28:17,179
fear of each of these boys which was I

649
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:18,440
don't know if this is in the original

650
00:28:23,140 --> 00:28:21,200
version the miniseries but when they go

651
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:23,150
into the house and they experience each

652
00:28:28,419 --> 00:28:24,530
of their individual that filled the

653
00:28:30,850 --> 00:28:28,429
house the miniseries at all interesting

654
00:28:33,100 --> 00:28:30,860
very interesting no no no that's not

655
00:28:35,620 --> 00:28:33,110
true it's in it very briefly Stanley

656
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:35,630
goes in there it's in it very briefly

657
00:28:39,130 --> 00:28:37,490
and he sees like somebody like wrapped

658
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:39,140
in bandages and stuff and is able to

659
00:28:44,010 --> 00:28:41,570
escape by naming all of his birds which

660
00:28:47,940 --> 00:28:44,020
is a callback to something that happens

661
00:28:49,799 --> 00:28:47,950
but they yeah they they do they do do

662
00:28:53,190 --> 00:28:49,809
the ended individual fears in the

663
00:28:55,590 --> 00:28:53,200
miniseries but I I do agree that they

664
00:28:58,380 --> 00:28:55,600
had there was much more of a potency to

665
00:29:00,840 --> 00:28:58,390
it this time yes on which I enjoyed and

666
00:29:02,820 --> 00:29:00,850
the and the they were it was it was

667
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:02,830
scary like some of that stuff was real

668
00:29:11,580 --> 00:29:08,530
creepy and odd and disturbing and I I

669
00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:11,590
could appreciate that they really like

670
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:13,600
win all out with having these scenarios

671
00:29:20,399 --> 00:29:16,690
that the clown was creating that's why I

672
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:20,409
didn't mind the CG as much let's let's

673
00:29:25,649 --> 00:29:22,510
talk about that now this story this

674
00:29:29,130 --> 00:29:25,659
movie definitely had some flaws with its

675
00:29:31,260 --> 00:29:29,140
CGI mm-hmm it was not the best again we

676
00:29:34,049 --> 00:29:31,270
were working on a minimal budget and it

677
00:29:36,060 --> 00:29:34,059
did distract a little but like you

678
00:29:39,270 --> 00:29:36,070
mentioned this to me earlier how do you

679
00:29:43,020 --> 00:29:39,280
create such a fantastical and

680
00:29:46,169 --> 00:29:43,030
nightmarish world yeah with the budget

681
00:29:47,909 --> 00:29:46,179
you have with a story like this without

682
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:47,919
CGI I don't think it would have been

683
00:29:51,510 --> 00:29:49,450
possible especially the shooting

684
00:29:53,159 --> 00:29:51,520
schedules people had want nowadays and

685
00:29:56,700 --> 00:29:53,169
like things like it's a practice like

686
00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:56,710
people I practical effects are fantastic

687
00:30:05,970 --> 00:30:00,720
but they are also very difficult and

688
00:30:07,710 --> 00:30:05,980
expensive so it's and now you can the

689
00:30:09,539 --> 00:30:07,720
what's great about this movie because

690
00:30:12,990 --> 00:30:09,549
you could argue the same thing for like

691
00:30:16,110 --> 00:30:13,000
a perfect example of trying to use CG in

692
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:16,120
a movie that should be like really able

693
00:30:20,850 --> 00:30:18,850
to take advantage of CG and failing

694
00:30:25,529 --> 00:30:20,860
miserably is the Nightmare on Elm Street

695
00:30:28,590 --> 00:30:25,539
remake from 2010 absent a 9 2010 it is

696
00:30:31,590 --> 00:30:28,600
so devoid of any like it just feels like

697
00:30:35,130 --> 00:30:31,600
a computer simulation yeah in this they

698
00:30:36,899 --> 00:30:35,140
I thought they did a good job on some of

699
00:30:39,090 --> 00:30:36,909
it there was even a shot especially

700
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:39,100
where his head is kind of like moving

701
00:30:42,659 --> 00:30:41,049
almost it's like very disorienting I

702
00:30:44,490 --> 00:30:42,669
forget who was looking at him I think it

703
00:30:47,010 --> 00:30:44,500
might have been like Eddie but his head

704
00:30:48,899 --> 00:30:47,020
is almost kind of like I like distorting

705
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:48,909
in the picture and at first I thought

706
00:30:52,260 --> 00:30:50,650
like oh man that's like bad CGI and then

707
00:30:54,539 --> 00:30:52,270
I was like no it's just really like

708
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:54,549
disorienting like this is really they

709
00:30:58,340 --> 00:30:56,970
they got down that like he is

710
00:30:59,890 --> 00:30:58,350
really trying to torture these people

711
00:31:03,470 --> 00:30:59,900
and play off of them and make things

712
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:03,480
weird and make things feel like not real

713
00:31:10,010 --> 00:31:06,809
like when he pops out of the like that

714
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:10,020
slide scene haha just Paul oh my god oh

715
00:31:14,990 --> 00:31:13,530
I was so cool so yeah for those who

716
00:31:17,419 --> 00:31:15,000
don't know there's a scene where there's

717
00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:17,429
a projector that's like starting to have

718
00:31:22,669 --> 00:31:20,220
a life of its own and it's flipping

719
00:31:25,310 --> 00:31:22,679
through these projections very quick and

720
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:25,320
we're seeing it getting closer and

721
00:31:33,770 --> 00:31:28,650
closer and then boom he just comes out

722
00:31:36,350 --> 00:31:33,780
of the projection screen oh my god it

723
00:31:39,649 --> 00:31:36,360
was so cool yeah yeah some of that stuff

724
00:31:42,049 --> 00:31:39,659
was really honestly and what's

725
00:31:45,049 --> 00:31:42,059
interesting is I found myself really

726
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:45,059
enjoying the parts with Pennywise the

727
00:31:50,779 --> 00:31:48,330
most and I didn't necessarily have that

728
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:50,789
feeling and my other experiences with

729
00:31:54,860 --> 00:31:52,559
the source material because usually the

730
00:31:56,659 --> 00:31:54,870
things and this is another one of the

731
00:32:00,020 --> 00:31:56,669
problems that I had with the movie is

732
00:32:03,770 --> 00:32:00,030
that it while they did have some

733
00:32:06,260 --> 00:32:03,780
elements of like truly terrible human

734
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:06,270
beings which is always a big thrust in

735
00:32:10,820 --> 00:32:09,120
Stephen King's work which is that like

736
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:10,830
the monsters that we usually have to

737
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:14,730
fear are humans they didn't do it enough

738
00:32:19,460 --> 00:32:16,890
for me like it's only kind of slightly

739
00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:19,470
there and then in the times when it's

740
00:32:25,279 --> 00:32:22,799
supposed to look like it is making this

741
00:32:27,169 --> 00:32:25,289
happen you're not really sure because

742
00:32:29,149 --> 00:32:27,179
you've already like they just didn't I

743
00:32:31,850 --> 00:32:29,159
feel like they didn't have enough maybe

744
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:31,860
even interest in that if that makes

745
00:32:37,940 --> 00:32:35,850
sense like it's it's a a good a pervy

746
00:32:40,370 --> 00:32:37,950
example is like Eddie's mom Eddie's mom

747
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:40,380
gets all the teeth taken out of her as

748
00:32:45,020 --> 00:32:42,690
far as like being a biting character

749
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:45,030
because she just at first they present

750
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:47,130
her as being like almost apathetic as

751
00:32:51,140 --> 00:32:49,200
far as like what he goes and does and

752
00:32:53,299 --> 00:32:51,150
that all because the sudden she becomes

753
00:32:55,399 --> 00:32:53,309
more like the character from the book

754
00:32:57,890 --> 00:32:55,409
which is just overly concerned with what

755
00:32:59,630 --> 00:32:57,900
he's doing and it is so then when he

756
00:33:03,320 --> 00:32:59,640
finally like stands up to her there was

757
00:33:04,820 --> 00:33:03,330
no there was nothing to it really which

758
00:33:07,070 --> 00:33:04,830
should be a big part of it like in the

759
00:33:11,060 --> 00:33:07,080
in the book and in the miniseries she is

760
00:33:12,649 --> 00:33:11,070
in a antagonist she's just as bad as

761
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:12,659
anyways you come to fight she's just as

762
00:33:16,850 --> 00:33:14,370
bad as Henry Bowers like she's just

763
00:33:18,769 --> 00:33:16,860
she's one of the bad guys whether she

764
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:18,779
means to be or not and she's truly

765
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:20,730
frightening just in the kind of grip

766
00:33:26,529 --> 00:33:22,710
that she has on Eddie and I don't

767
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:26,539
aside from Beverly's dad in this version

768
00:33:32,389 --> 00:33:30,330
they don't really get into that

769
00:33:34,370 --> 00:33:32,399
with the humans and with his it's even

770
00:33:37,370 --> 00:33:34,380
simplified where he's just a creep he's

771
00:33:39,470 --> 00:33:37,380
just gross there's no like in the they

772
00:33:41,810 --> 00:33:39,480
just full-blown make it so that he's

773
00:33:44,060 --> 00:33:41,820
like trying to have sex with her which

774
00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:44,070
is only kind of like hinted at in the

775
00:33:50,509 --> 00:33:46,860
books and and the miniseries like it's

776
00:33:53,869 --> 00:33:50,519
never really explicit yeah you know he's

777
00:33:55,879 --> 00:33:53,879
terrible but it's more leveled than that

778
00:33:58,220 --> 00:33:55,889
which is what makes it scarier it's more

779
00:34:02,269 --> 00:33:58,230
real like he was a cartoon in this movie

780
00:34:04,610 --> 00:34:02,279
yeah same with the older boy who's kind

781
00:34:07,610 --> 00:34:04,620
of bullying all the losers in the club

782
00:34:12,829 --> 00:34:07,620
who later in the movie literally becomes

783
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:12,839
a murderer yes that was another one

784
00:34:18,109 --> 00:34:15,690
where there was no it was all very

785
00:34:20,149 --> 00:34:18,119
sudden like all of a sudden he's snapped

786
00:34:23,149 --> 00:34:20,159
and like they but they didn't do enough

787
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:23,159
to show like he's just kind of a bully

788
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:24,690
and I like talking about bullies don't

789
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:26,970
need motivation necessarily but there

790
00:34:31,129 --> 00:34:29,310
was there was nothing here they they

791
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:31,139
talked about at one point how he's like

792
00:34:42,020 --> 00:34:36,690
oh like Beverly says to been the fat boy

793
00:34:44,359 --> 00:34:42,030
in the group yeah she says like Oh

794
00:34:45,619 --> 00:34:44,369
everybody knows he's got a bone to pick

795
00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:45,629
with you or like he's after you or

796
00:34:50,629 --> 00:34:47,040
something like that and we're like it's

797
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:50,639
like all right could you felt yeah yeah

798
00:34:54,919 --> 00:34:53,010
I was like I and I was like I've read

799
00:34:58,190 --> 00:34:54,929
the book I know why but I would like to

800
00:35:00,620 --> 00:34:58,200
know as a moviegoer please write just

801
00:35:03,710 --> 00:35:00,630
something and there's a lot of weird

802
00:35:05,780 --> 00:35:03,720
like they chose weird opportunities to

803
00:35:07,819 --> 00:35:05,790
pick showing over telling and vice-versa

804
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:07,829
this is something that I don't think any

805
00:35:12,260 --> 00:35:09,810
of them will ever be able to get across

806
00:35:14,930 --> 00:35:12,270
it I guess it just comes across easier

807
00:35:18,140 --> 00:35:14,940
in prose but in both the miniseries and

808
00:35:19,849 --> 00:35:18,150
in this movie if they have ridiculous

809
00:35:22,309 --> 00:35:19,859
scenes where the kids are just like I

810
00:35:24,620 --> 00:35:22,319
guess it's just some hundred-year-old

811
00:35:27,020 --> 00:35:24,630
evil being that can

812
00:35:33,470 --> 00:35:27,030
feed off of our fears and use them to

813
00:35:35,990 --> 00:35:33,480
exploit it's just yeah this is uh I I

814
00:35:38,690 --> 00:35:36,000
think this this film in particular the

815
00:35:40,250 --> 00:35:38,700
this version is a perfect example of

816
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:40,260
style over substance

817
00:35:47,180 --> 00:35:44,850
this movie was gorgeous I mean the sets

818
00:35:49,580 --> 00:35:47,190
it looked like you were in almost like a

819
00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:49,590
haunted house at times or you were in

820
00:35:56,090 --> 00:35:53,310
this tone of Derry and even like down to

821
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:56,100
when we're in the house and each kid is

822
00:35:59,510 --> 00:35:58,050
having their their fear played out it

823
00:36:02,150 --> 00:35:59,520
felt like you were following them

824
00:36:03,790 --> 00:36:02,160
through a room in some sort of haunted

825
00:36:06,290 --> 00:36:03,800
house theme part

826
00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:06,300
yeah the scenes in the house were

827
00:36:10,210 --> 00:36:08,310
probably were probably the best scenes

828
00:36:13,010 --> 00:36:10,220
in the movie those are pretty fantastic

829
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:13,020
that was really good I really liked

830
00:36:16,490 --> 00:36:14,400
everything that happened and there is

831
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:16,500
real scary bill skarsgård did a

832
00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:18,810
fantastic job with those kids and what I

833
00:36:23,090 --> 00:36:20,940
love is I don't know if you knew this

834
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:23,100
but the producers and everyone and the

835
00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:26,610
director wouldn't introduce the kids to

836
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:29,250
him before they shot those scenes oh my

837
00:36:34,490 --> 00:36:32,010
god yeah yeah yeah so they met him for

838
00:36:36,710 --> 00:36:34,500
the first time doing those scenes that's

839
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:36,720
you know that's interesting I I do

840
00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:39,210
wonder how often that happens when with

841
00:36:45,350 --> 00:36:42,900
kids who are in horror movies like how

842
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:45,360
real do they really want to make it well

843
00:36:51,020 --> 00:36:48,210
you know I guess pretty often because I

844
00:36:53,780 --> 00:36:51,030
just recently read a story for Annabel

845
00:36:55,340 --> 00:36:53,790
creation where Anthony LaPaglia who's

846
00:36:57,170 --> 00:36:55,350
one of the actors of that movie did the

847
00:36:59,930 --> 00:36:57,180
exact same thing like isolated himself

848
00:37:02,390 --> 00:36:59,940
from the kids while they were shoot you

849
00:37:04,850 --> 00:37:02,400
know who else did that Ryan Reynolds did

850
00:37:08,570 --> 00:37:04,860
that when it was at Ryan Reynolds I

851
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:08,580
believe it was who did a medieval no

852
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:11,610
really really because he knew that these

853
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:13,770
kids he was you know he was portraying

854
00:37:20,270 --> 00:37:16,800
their father and that he had to brutally

855
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:20,280
murder them he did not want to have any

856
00:37:26,570 --> 00:37:23,130
sort of connection with the actors

857
00:37:27,890 --> 00:37:26,580
beforehand which is interesting I would

858
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:27,900
think it would be the other way around

859
00:37:31,310 --> 00:37:29,280
you would want to build a relationship

860
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:31,320
with these kids who are supposed to be

861
00:37:35,180 --> 00:37:33,210
your children making it all that more

862
00:37:37,819 --> 00:37:35,190
powerful when he actually murders them

863
00:37:39,469 --> 00:37:37,829
yeah that's a good that's a good point

864
00:37:40,819 --> 00:37:39,479
thought about that it always just kind

865
00:37:45,410 --> 00:37:40,829
of made sense to me but now they just

866
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:45,420
say that it is interesting now bill

867
00:37:50,509 --> 00:37:47,729
skarsgård no how do you think he

868
00:37:52,910 --> 00:37:50,519
compares to Tim Curry uh it's apples and

869
00:37:56,269 --> 00:37:52,920
oranges yes yes and don't get me wrong

870
00:37:57,979 --> 00:37:56,279
he is not well I mean the he did a

871
00:38:00,289 --> 00:37:57,989
perfectly fine job and I don't mean to

872
00:38:02,959 --> 00:38:00,299
say like he's no he's ledger like he's

873
00:38:05,269 --> 00:38:02,969
no like he didn't do a very good job but

874
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:05,279
it is very much a you know Jack

875
00:38:09,469 --> 00:38:07,650
Nicholson did his thing in 89 Tim Curry

876
00:38:12,019 --> 00:38:09,479
did things his thing in 90 Heath Ledger

877
00:38:13,279 --> 00:38:12,029
did his thing and Phil skarsgård did his

878
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:13,289
thing in this I think it's different

879
00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:15,839
enough and Stan's enough on its own it's

880
00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:17,369
just a different take and it's a very

881
00:38:20,959 --> 00:38:19,529
grounded kind of take like I love if

882
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:20,969
there's something just kind of like

883
00:38:26,809 --> 00:38:23,729
inhuman about him that just really works

884
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:26,819
his his physically got more

885
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:28,650
opportunities yeah you know Tim Curry

886
00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:31,170
was probably like 40 by the time he

887
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:32,910
played penny wise I think or somewhere

888
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:34,890
around there Bill skarsgård it's like 25

889
00:38:40,759 --> 00:38:38,249
and it said because of that you get to

890
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:40,769
see some really solid physicality from

891
00:38:46,339 --> 00:38:43,680
him like he's really which is very much

892
00:38:47,870 --> 00:38:46,349
more akin to like how he is in the book

893
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:47,880
which he's always like you know doing

894
00:38:52,339 --> 00:38:49,920
cartwheels and stuff like that just a

895
00:38:54,049 --> 00:38:52,349
very there was a lot more like body work

896
00:38:57,079 --> 00:38:54,059
that he got to do there's that one scene

897
00:38:59,390 --> 00:38:57,089
where he's like in just dance doing a

898
00:39:04,549 --> 00:38:59,400
jig in front of Beverly just staring at

899
00:39:07,309 --> 00:39:04,559
her with he's like no there-there are

900
00:39:10,670 --> 00:39:07,319
times in this where they roll his eyes

901
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:10,680
like into the back of his head that

902
00:39:16,370 --> 00:39:13,440
there are some terrifying close-ups of

903
00:39:21,189 --> 00:39:16,380
this clown oh yeah I think the CGI did

904
00:39:24,499 --> 00:39:21,199
work others not so much but overall some

905
00:39:26,779 --> 00:39:24,509
extremely visceral aesthetics in this

906
00:39:31,150 --> 00:39:26,789
movie even the first scene where the the

907
00:39:36,319 --> 00:39:31,160
boy gets his arm taken out by a boy I

908
00:39:39,709 --> 00:39:36,329
was like good on you guys yeah I mean

909
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:39,719
they did but then they you know he

910
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:42,089
steals him away inside of the sewer it's

911
00:39:47,449 --> 00:39:45,119
it's much more effective if what happens

912
00:39:49,549 --> 00:39:47,459
usually happens which is he gets his arm

913
00:39:50,660 --> 00:39:49,559
ripped off and then it's left there to

914
00:39:54,830 --> 00:39:50,670
die a dip gutter

915
00:39:59,150 --> 00:39:54,840
yes we like our kids dead and cold and

916
00:40:00,770 --> 00:39:59,160
in the gutter in the in the gutter Hey

917
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:00,780
so yeah there's I mean there's

918
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:02,370
definitely elements I will say there's

919
00:40:06,050 --> 00:40:04,530
one moment that felt like every now and

920
00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:06,060
then I can watch something I'm like I

921
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:07,710
could be like oh I bet that was a studio

922
00:40:12,770 --> 00:40:10,890
note and there's that there's that part

923
00:40:14,660 --> 00:40:12,780
in the end when they're in his lair or

924
00:40:16,820 --> 00:40:14,670
whatever and all the kids are floating

925
00:40:18,350 --> 00:40:16,830
up in the air and I was just like I was

926
00:40:20,210 --> 00:40:18,360
like that's an executive : like well I

927
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:20,220
mean he's saying they all float this

928
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:21,690
whole time like they got we got to show

929
00:40:24,530 --> 00:40:23,250
them floating good go float

930
00:40:28,910 --> 00:40:24,540
yeah they got a float we got some

931
00:40:30,770 --> 00:40:28,920
floating no it's only gonna make sense

932
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:30,780
if we show them floating at some point

933
00:40:34,580 --> 00:40:31,920
so we're gonna do it we're gonna show

934
00:40:38,690 --> 00:40:34,590
Chloe like I was like what is going on

935
00:40:41,330 --> 00:40:38,700
here interesting that the the less the

936
00:40:46,030 --> 00:40:41,340
climax of the film it seems like is

937
00:40:48,380 --> 00:40:46,040
where they took a lot of liberties yeah

938
00:40:50,570 --> 00:40:48,390
some works because I don't know if you

939
00:40:52,190 --> 00:40:50,580
know what happens remember what happens

940
00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:52,200
in the book but it's like you know when

941
00:40:56,750 --> 00:40:54,660
they defeat him and quote-unquote to

942
00:40:59,780 --> 00:40:56,760
feed him it's through like a whole thing

943
00:41:01,610 --> 00:40:59,790
where Bill like goes into his mind

944
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:01,620
basically and then they go into this

945
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:03,690
other universe and Phil gets transport

946
00:41:09,230 --> 00:41:06,570
transported past a giant turtle which is

947
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:09,240
referenced in the movie there's a turtle

948
00:41:13,970 --> 00:41:10,890
watching over them the turtle is

949
00:41:16,250 --> 00:41:13,980
Pennywise as natural enemy and bill sees

950
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:16,260
it as he's being transported through the

951
00:41:20,780 --> 00:41:18,240
universe towards the dead lights and

952
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:20,790
then he's able to resist Pennywise and

953
00:41:26,690 --> 00:41:23,490
stop him and hurt him and but I did I

954
00:41:28,970 --> 00:41:26,700
liked what they did here which is make

955
00:41:30,350 --> 00:41:28,980
it they definitely leaned into that I

956
00:41:33,020 --> 00:41:30,360
just wish they leaned into it a little

957
00:41:34,700 --> 00:41:33,030
bit more they you know they they

958
00:41:37,610 --> 00:41:34,710
overcome their fear and because

959
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:37,620
Pennywise like becomes what they believe

960
00:41:42,020 --> 00:41:39,810
if they believe something will hurt him

961
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:42,030
it does and that's what happens and I

962
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:44,730
love Ritchie's little turn moment of

963
00:41:51,650 --> 00:41:46,530
like taking that baseball bat and just

964
00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:51,660
going to beat the [\h__\h] yeah and I

965
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:53,730
thought that fight against him was where

966
00:41:57,460 --> 00:41:55,680
some of the CG was real effective

967
00:41:59,720 --> 00:41:57,470
because all of a sudden he's just

968
00:42:02,000 --> 00:41:59,730
morphing into a bunch of different

969
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:02,010
things which is very much from the book

970
00:42:06,210 --> 00:42:04,570
all right which was really cool and

971
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:06,220
thing you cannot do you know you

972
00:42:10,980 --> 00:42:08,650
couldn't have done in 1990 and you can't

973
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:10,990
really do practically it works really

974
00:42:16,770 --> 00:42:13,330
well with that CG like and you even see

975
00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:16,780
him turn into a spider yes oh thank you

976
00:42:22,860 --> 00:42:21,250
for saying that I'll still even you do

977
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:22,870
it and I'll say it right now I'll go on

978
00:42:26,460 --> 00:42:24,640
record I always understood it in the

979
00:42:28,170 --> 00:42:26,470
miniseries and I understand it even more

980
00:42:30,420 --> 00:42:28,180
in the book it's all there it's just

981
00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:30,430
what their minds can handle yep

982
00:42:38,610 --> 00:42:34,270
it's no good yes yeah this movie I think

983
00:42:41,370 --> 00:42:38,620
it succeeded on so many levels it was so

984
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:41,380
much fun I think they really found the

985
00:42:46,260 --> 00:42:44,170
heart of Stephen King it's for a new

986
00:42:48,810 --> 00:42:46,270
generation and I think we have to keep

987
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:48,820
that in mind like we're not we're not

988
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:50,890
saying oh it's nothing like the

989
00:42:56,190 --> 00:42:52,930
miniseries oh he doesn't no absolutely

990
00:42:58,290 --> 00:42:56,200
not I'm disgusted by how many times I've

991
00:43:00,240 --> 00:42:58,300
said will in the source material I'm not

992
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:00,250
that don't want to be that usually yeah

993
00:43:05,820 --> 00:43:03,490
I'm not that for I'm a man who talked

994
00:43:07,260 --> 00:43:05,830
about how much I love that Batman V

995
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:07,270
Superman just kind of took the source

996
00:43:09,780 --> 00:43:09,310
material and threw it up against the

997
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:09,790
wall

998
00:43:13,310 --> 00:43:11,710
no get and made a lot of knots but we

999
00:43:16,170 --> 00:43:13,320
don't know that's neither here nor there

1000
00:43:19,290 --> 00:43:16,180
right now you know of you if you want to

1001
00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:19,300
see literally an homage scene by scene

1002
00:43:25,410 --> 00:43:21,730
watch Gus Van Sant's psycho that is a

1003
00:43:28,430 --> 00:43:25,420
piece of [\h__\h] examine carnot where every

1004
00:43:30,510 --> 00:43:28,440
move every line every shot is

1005
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:30,520
practically identical to the original

1006
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:33,130
and completely worthless to humanity

1007
00:43:38,460 --> 00:43:35,770
yeah but in this I really think that

1008
00:43:40,470 --> 00:43:38,470
they decided like while there were some

1009
00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:40,480
choices that they made that I did not

1010
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:42,910
particularly understand is why they

1011
00:43:46,470 --> 00:43:45,010
would like changes that they made there

1012
00:43:48,930 --> 00:43:46,480
were some where I was like oh that's a

1013
00:43:51,450 --> 00:43:48,940
really good that was a solid idea that

1014
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:51,460
was a good thing to change so I thought

1015
00:43:58,020 --> 00:43:55,090
that yeah I am I there was I enjoyed

1016
00:43:59,760 --> 00:43:58,030
myself far too much I'm also excited to

1017
00:44:01,440 --> 00:43:59,770
see the sequel because like I said

1018
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:01,450
there's nothing that could have made me

1019
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:04,810
happier than having the the the titles

1020
00:44:08,670 --> 00:44:06,130
come up at the end and it's saying

1021
00:44:10,410 --> 00:44:08,680
chapter one across of it across it just

1022
00:44:12,180 --> 00:44:10,420
to make it very clear like you know it

1023
00:44:15,090 --> 00:44:12,190
could be like a Kill Bill type situation

1024
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:15,100
and while Kill Bill one is not as

1025
00:44:20,190 --> 00:44:18,250
complete of a film as this one is

1026
00:44:23,490 --> 00:44:20,200
I still I do think there will be some

1027
00:44:25,470 --> 00:44:23,500
they have a unique opportunity to really

1028
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:25,480
fill in some gaps and fix some of the

1029
00:44:29,580 --> 00:44:28,090
problems in a second movie because

1030
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:29,590
they're still gonna be telling the story

1031
00:44:33,570 --> 00:44:31,690
I can just improve they can just improve

1032
00:44:36,330 --> 00:44:33,580
on it and on what they've already done

1033
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:36,340
and already set up yes no correct me if

1034
00:44:41,310 --> 00:44:39,520
I'm wrong in the the semi mythology we

1035
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:41,320
get with penny wise

1036
00:44:48,060 --> 00:44:44,410
this happens every 27 years am I correct

1037
00:44:50,370 --> 00:44:48,070
27 to 30 years yeah okay okay they say

1038
00:44:52,350 --> 00:44:50,380
pretty definitively 27 in this movie

1039
00:44:55,170 --> 00:44:52,360
which is fine it doesn't matter but it's

1040
00:44:57,660 --> 00:44:55,180
me you know it's about 27 to 30 years so

1041
00:45:00,150 --> 00:44:57,670
I guess if we're looking at it chapter 2

1042
00:45:01,380 --> 00:45:00,160
for this if and when I I mean I would

1043
00:45:02,820 --> 00:45:01,390
assume it would come out with the box

1044
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:02,830
office for this movie they'd be stupid

1045
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:04,930
oh yeah this is all but gonna happen

1046
00:45:11,490 --> 00:45:09,610
yeah like that yeah my Dreamcast I was

1047
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:11,500
gonna say we're not gonna be seeing any

1048
00:45:18,180 --> 00:45:14,050
of the same actors presumably I mean oh

1049
00:45:20,220 --> 00:45:18,190
yeah yep yep which will be interesting I

1050
00:45:23,460 --> 00:45:20,230
wonder if they'll keep Bill skarsgård

1051
00:45:25,830 --> 00:45:23,470
you know this emotive I have to clown he

1052
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:25,840
is going to be the new icon for this I

1053
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:27,970
think yeah oh yeah they have to I can't

1054
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:30,610
oh my god and I can't wait it has to I

1055
00:45:34,710 --> 00:45:33,010
will say that's something I'm very that

1056
00:45:36,810 --> 00:45:34,720
is something I'm very excited to see

1057
00:45:39,570 --> 00:45:36,820
like it has to be the same actor and

1058
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:39,580
they have like and where this movie

1059
00:45:43,350 --> 00:45:41,530
these movies are like Kill Bill I will

1060
00:45:45,870 --> 00:45:43,360
say is you they do have that opportunity

1061
00:45:47,580 --> 00:45:45,880
where like this movie does have more of

1062
00:45:49,410 --> 00:45:47,590
the not throwaway field but it's more of

1063
00:45:50,850 --> 00:45:49,420
like an adventure just like a fun this

1064
00:45:52,650 --> 00:45:50,860
is something that happens to these kids

1065
00:45:54,930 --> 00:45:52,660
and they fight back against it and this

1066
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:54,940
is the story kind of feel to it almost

1067
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:56,530
like kind of the first Kill Bill it's

1068
00:46:00,150 --> 00:45:57,850
kind of this straightforward like fun

1069
00:46:01,530 --> 00:46:00,160
action II revenge movie and then you get

1070
00:46:03,690 --> 00:46:01,540
into the second movie and it's got the

1071
00:46:05,790 --> 00:46:03,700
heart and the explanation and you really

1072
00:46:07,380 --> 00:46:05,800
get details as to what happened and you

1073
00:46:10,650 --> 00:46:07,390
get the emotion of the story in the

1074
00:46:13,740 --> 00:46:10,660
background and I like I said I'm I I

1075
00:46:16,140 --> 00:46:13,750
hope that they're able to handle it

1076
00:46:18,690 --> 00:46:16,150
correctly and I don't want to like you

1077
00:46:20,340 --> 00:46:18,700
know go against anybody some talented

1078
00:46:24,210 --> 00:46:20,350
people worked on these movies but I do

1079
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:24,220
think that I feel like there was um if

1080
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:26,650
there's enough from cary fukunaga was

1081
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:30,370
story that got used that got him a

1082
00:46:33,510 --> 00:46:31,930
writing credit that

1083
00:46:35,550 --> 00:46:33,520
means that they have an interesting

1084
00:46:37,590 --> 00:46:35,560
challenge ahead of them doing it without

1085
00:46:39,150 --> 00:46:37,600
him and I mean his other were otherwise

1086
00:46:40,830 --> 00:46:39,160
they would have just scrapped the they

1087
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:40,840
would have started from scratch yeah I

1088
00:46:44,310 --> 00:46:42,130
would have done their own thing and

1089
00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:44,320
that's clearly not what happened and

1090
00:46:47,730 --> 00:46:45,520
he's not going to be around for the

1091
00:46:51,330 --> 00:46:47,740
second one and the second one has to be

1092
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:51,340
deep it has to be about these people

1093
00:46:55,980 --> 00:46:53,650
like these kids coming back as adults

1094
00:46:57,420 --> 00:46:55,990
it's about rediscovering your childhood

1095
00:46:59,100 --> 00:46:57,430
and like memories and how does it like

1096
00:47:01,560 --> 00:46:59,110
it's got to be where a lot of the meat

1097
00:47:03,870 --> 00:47:01,570
is mm-hmm but will sis will see and

1098
00:47:07,260 --> 00:47:03,880
presumably how these events in this one

1099
00:47:09,390 --> 00:47:07,270
affected their growing uh yes yes it's

1100
00:47:11,370 --> 00:47:09,400
not like these things can just be shaken

1101
00:47:14,490 --> 00:47:11,380
off and they're like oh yeah it's been

1102
00:47:16,110 --> 00:47:14,500
27 years crap you know it's like these

1103
00:47:19,410 --> 00:47:16,120
things are gonna haunt them for the rest

1104
00:47:24,260 --> 00:47:19,420
of well no I mean they'll haunt Mike but

1105
00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:24,270
that's the whole twist if you don't know

1106
00:47:29,370 --> 00:47:27,250
spoilers they leave town and everyone

1107
00:47:29,970 --> 00:47:29,380
forgets everything they forget each

1108
00:47:33,180 --> 00:47:29,980
other

1109
00:47:37,380 --> 00:47:33,190
yeah then 27 years later Mike is hanging

1110
00:47:39,750 --> 00:47:37,390
out at home and he's the murder start up

1111
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:39,760
again and he calls everybody one by one

1112
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:41,410
and all of a sudden they're like like

1113
00:47:45,390 --> 00:47:43,330
I'm there like I'm sorry Mike Hanlon who

1114
00:47:48,390 --> 00:47:45,400
are you then and then he's just then

1115
00:47:51,240 --> 00:47:48,400
they boom it's like a flash so man I'm

1116
00:47:53,850 --> 00:47:51,250
so excited as long as they take their

1117
00:47:55,650 --> 00:47:53,860
time and like you said they really give

1118
00:47:58,350 --> 00:47:55,660
it the heart and love that I think they

1119
00:48:00,150 --> 00:47:58,360
did with this one you know the entire

1120
00:48:06,410 --> 00:48:00,160
creative team from the writers to the

1121
00:48:12,420 --> 00:48:09,120
you know that's the pride Prejudice and

1122
00:48:14,670 --> 00:48:12,430
Zombies guy he's been an active producer

1123
00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:14,680
on this since cary fukunaga what was

1124
00:48:18,810 --> 00:48:15,310
supposed to be doing

1125
00:48:20,670 --> 00:48:18,820
yeah and he's and has only stayed on

1126
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:20,680
since then it has been it was a very

1127
00:48:27,330 --> 00:48:22,810
active part of production so we'll see

1128
00:48:29,220 --> 00:48:27,340
III they they I mean I'm gonna see this

1129
00:48:31,380 --> 00:48:29,230
one in theaters again before it's out of

1130
00:48:34,110 --> 00:48:31,390
theaters I still had a blast and I can't

1131
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:34,120
wait to I had to get up and be daring

1132
00:48:40,890 --> 00:48:36,370
cleaning cleaning the blood see inside

1133
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:40,900
oh do that i-i-i-i've okay with that

1134
00:48:44,340 --> 00:48:42,640
only because I heard it was one of the

1135
00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:44,350
weirdest things of the book it was

1136
00:48:48,030 --> 00:48:45,730
pretty weird you got like the

1137
00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:48,040
this nice eighty song going on yeah I

1138
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:49,510
was about to say just cuz the music

1139
00:48:53,820 --> 00:48:52,090
choice was always jarring that moment

1140
00:48:55,980 --> 00:48:53,830
should have some weight to it oh

1141
00:48:58,650 --> 00:48:55,990
absolutely

1142
00:49:00,330 --> 00:48:58,660
and I didn't yeah I don't know if I

1143
00:49:01,590 --> 00:49:00,340
don't know I I can't judge I'll have to

1144
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:01,600
see it again cuz I didn't see that scene

1145
00:49:05,609 --> 00:49:03,730
but I know in the books and in the

1146
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:05,619
miniseries she says like a whole like

1147
00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:07,090
you know once they helped her clean it

1148
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:09,310
it never came back mm-hmm but they also

1149
00:49:12,660 --> 00:49:10,930
don't show it happening again so who

1150
00:49:16,140 --> 00:49:12,670
knows that blood see it was great yeah

1151
00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:16,150
that was a great ultra bloody her just

1152
00:49:19,890 --> 00:49:17,680
getting trapped in there like there was

1153
00:49:23,460 --> 00:49:19,900
some good that dude is a good director

1154
00:49:25,620 --> 00:49:23,470
and I'm excited to see him he's doing a

1155
00:49:27,720 --> 00:49:25,630
pilot for a lock-and-key for Hulu which

1156
00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:27,730
is a comic book series by Stephen King

1157
00:49:34,140 --> 00:49:30,310
son did you ever read that no I have not

1158
00:49:36,450 --> 00:49:34,150
Ryan Ryan I'm holding to you the you to

1159
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:36,460
this because it's being recorded you go

1160
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:39,490
out tomorrow and get the first volume of

1161
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:42,130
lock and key and if you're not hooked I

1162
00:49:46,290 --> 00:49:44,170
don't know what to do for you but it's

1163
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:46,300
it was a comic book series by Joe Hill

1164
00:49:50,730 --> 00:49:48,880
who's Steven King's son and this artist

1165
00:49:53,310 --> 00:49:50,740
Gabriel Rodriguez and it's about these

1166
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:53,320
kids who after their father's grisly

1167
00:49:59,130 --> 00:49:56,290
murder returned to his childhood home

1168
00:50:01,080 --> 00:49:59,140
which he inherited and find they find

1169
00:50:02,849 --> 00:50:01,090
these special keys that give these them

1170
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:02,859
like secret powers but then they also

1171
00:50:07,020 --> 00:50:04,930
find out that there is a demon that will

1172
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:07,030
stop at nothing to get the keys for

1173
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:10,810
themselves and it is amazing it is one

1174
00:50:15,090 --> 00:50:12,640
of the best comic books that's ever been

1175
00:50:16,890 --> 00:50:15,100
created it's got it's got it was a it

1176
00:50:19,290 --> 00:50:16,900
was you know it's got a finite run I

1177
00:50:21,359 --> 00:50:19,300
think there's maybe like 38 issues it's

1178
00:50:24,359 --> 00:50:21,369
great great horror comics good stuff to

1179
00:50:27,030 --> 00:50:24,369
check that out yeah and and Andy machete

1180
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:27,040
who is doing the pilot which there was a

1181
00:50:30,450 --> 00:50:28,450
pilot that was done like maybe like

1182
00:50:31,980 --> 00:50:30,460
seven years ago or so that didn't get

1183
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:31,990
picked up but they're doing a new pilot

1184
00:50:36,540 --> 00:50:34,000
for Hulu he's directing it he's

1185
00:50:40,020 --> 00:50:36,550
co-writing it with Joe Hill and the kid

1186
00:50:43,620 --> 00:50:40,030
who plays Georgie is gonna play a main

1187
00:50:45,510 --> 00:50:43,630
little kid in the TV show amazing this

1188
00:50:47,910 --> 00:50:45,520
this is what I love about stripping

1189
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:47,920
Beverly's gonna be in so is she oh cool

1190
00:50:51,730 --> 00:50:50,530
she was great by the way the air is real

1191
00:50:53,230 --> 00:50:51,740
good

1192
00:50:55,780 --> 00:50:53,240
get Amy Adams to play an older version

1193
00:50:58,570 --> 00:50:55,790
to her I feel bad that's what I said she

1194
00:51:01,930 --> 00:50:58,580
looks oh my god she looks just like her

1195
00:51:03,730 --> 00:51:01,940
with the money that is movie made I she

1196
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:03,740
would be dumb to not take that role yeah

1197
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:05,810
yeah I'll be interested to see I think

1198
00:51:09,940 --> 00:51:08,090
it was clock to make like 60 million by

1199
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:09,950
the end of the weekend it'll probably

1200
00:51:14,020 --> 00:51:11,810
make more than that and that's you know

1201
00:51:17,020 --> 00:51:14,030
twice its budget that makes its money

1202
00:51:18,820 --> 00:51:17,030
back in the first weekend so there we're

1203
00:51:20,140 --> 00:51:18,830
getting a sequel I just hope they give

1204
00:51:22,630 --> 00:51:20,150
them they give him more money I want

1205
00:51:24,310 --> 00:51:22,640
more dairy Ryan there was such a big tea

1206
00:51:26,650 --> 00:51:24,320
there's all there's plenty of great like

1207
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:26,660
book stuff in there but so Richie and

1208
00:51:30,130 --> 00:51:28,250
they they have it in this too like

1209
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:30,140
Richie is constantly like you know he's

1210
00:51:34,570 --> 00:51:32,480
the joking one and the loudmouth and

1211
00:51:37,180 --> 00:51:34,580
doesn't really believe what's going on

1212
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:37,190
and then he has a great moment in this

1213
00:51:40,990 --> 00:51:38,450
movie where he's fine they're like oh

1214
00:51:43,210 --> 00:51:41,000
[\h__\h] in the book there's this giant

1215
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:43,220
statue of Paul Bunyan right that's in

1216
00:51:48,609 --> 00:51:45,920
the center of Derry and it's it it's in

1217
00:51:50,830 --> 00:51:48,619
the movie in the book yeah bends over

1218
00:51:52,990 --> 00:51:50,840
and talks to him like gets right in his

1219
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:53,000
face and then turns into Pennywise and

1220
00:51:58,540 --> 00:51:56,090
then like starts like chasing after him

1221
00:52:01,480 --> 00:51:58,550
it's crazy so when they showed that

1222
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:01,490
statue in and I'm pretty sure it's at a

1223
00:52:04,930 --> 00:52:02,960
moment where he's just like guys I

1224
00:52:09,370 --> 00:52:04,940
haven't seen anything you're all nuts I

1225
00:52:10,930 --> 00:52:09,380
was like and you know what maybe if the

1226
00:52:15,970 --> 00:52:10,940
budget was sixty million dollars it

1227
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:15,980
would have yep my here's my fear the

1228
00:52:21,430 --> 00:52:19,250
budget will be upped by millions for the

1229
00:52:24,220 --> 00:52:21,440
sequel I just hope that it doesn't

1230
00:52:26,370 --> 00:52:24,230
overshadow the story they're trying to

1231
00:52:28,930 --> 00:52:26,380
tell making a two big-budget Hollywood

1232
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:28,940
agreed and it could as long as they

1233
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:32,210
stick to the you know they I'll be

1234
00:52:36,220 --> 00:52:33,770
interested to see what they do for a

1235
00:52:38,740 --> 00:52:36,230
finale for this next one they have some

1236
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:38,750
choices especially since they have they

1237
00:52:41,260 --> 00:52:39,770
could take it right from the source

1238
00:52:43,330 --> 00:52:41,270
material if they want since they changed

1239
00:52:45,220 --> 00:52:43,340
it so much for this one good like I kind

1240
00:52:48,609 --> 00:52:45,230
of I liked the drownded feel but I would

1241
00:52:50,740 --> 00:52:48,619
like to see them it's interesting it was

1242
00:52:53,470 --> 00:52:50,750
interesting watching kids have to act

1243
00:52:55,810 --> 00:52:53,480
like adults to get out of this yes I

1244
00:52:58,480 --> 00:52:55,820
want to see adults have to actually kids

1245
00:53:00,640 --> 00:52:58,490
oh what a wonderful turn of events yeah

1246
00:53:02,530 --> 00:53:00,650
like I really want them to see they have

1247
00:53:04,450 --> 00:53:02,540
to use their imagination have to do

1248
00:53:05,380 --> 00:53:04,460
something like step out of their comfort

1249
00:53:07,660 --> 00:53:05,390
zone as far

1250
00:53:10,180 --> 00:53:07,670
like believing because one thing they

1251
00:53:11,410 --> 00:53:10,190
don't really touch on a lot in this I

1252
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:11,420
mean they mentioned it briefly with the

1253
00:53:15,130 --> 00:53:13,370
blood and stuff but it's like the adults

1254
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:15,140
just don't see this stuff like I don't

1255
00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:17,210
even cuz definitely what it's doing is

1256
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:20,480
not even real most of the time so it

1257
00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:22,850
will be interesting to see these adults

1258
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:25,280
who are seeing this and the sequel

1259
00:53:30,940 --> 00:53:27,730
interacting with other adults who aren't

1260
00:53:32,500 --> 00:53:30,950
yeah what that lends to it so yeah they

1261
00:53:35,530 --> 00:53:32,510
got a they got some challenges ahead of

1262
00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:35,540
them but I'm I'm excited will see me too

1263
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:37,760
man I I think you know we can both agree

1264
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:41,810
this this was a this was a good movie it

1265
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:45,050
was a solid yeah I was definitely going

1266
00:53:49,210 --> 00:53:47,210
to see it again yep I'll be seeing it

1267
00:53:51,220 --> 00:53:49,220
again within the week easily alright

1268
00:53:55,240 --> 00:53:51,230
well I think that's it I think we've

1269
00:53:56,950 --> 00:53:55,250
pretty much sold it I hope you enjoyed I

1270
00:53:59,920 --> 00:53:56,960
hope people go see the movie I hope we

1271
00:54:01,450 --> 00:53:59,930
didn't get an opinion it's a great time

1272
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:01,460
of year for it it's already starting to

1273
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:03,890
feel like fall and I just this is a

1274
00:54:08,590 --> 00:54:06,250
great you know me and how I love me some

1275
00:54:11,110 --> 00:54:08,600
October and I have to get prepared early

1276
00:54:12,670 --> 00:54:11,120
this year because I'll be on my

1277
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:12,680
honeymoon having my wedding during

1278
00:54:16,990 --> 00:54:15,050
October this year but I am this is a

1279
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:17,000
great thing way to kind of kick things

1280
00:54:22,570 --> 00:54:20,690
off get things going yes for this every

1281
00:54:24,730 --> 00:54:22,580
I did want to mention every every

1282
00:54:28,270 --> 00:54:24,740
October Andrew does do what a whole

1283
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:28,280
month right of horror movies the entire

1284
00:54:32,350 --> 00:54:30,770
purpose of my podcast half-white son of

1285
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:32,360
a black man is thrown out the window so

1286
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:33,890
I can bring in some friends to talk

1287
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:36,290
about horror movies and Ryan I I will

1288
00:54:39,700 --> 00:54:37,970
have to like I said it will be last year

1289
00:54:41,860 --> 00:54:39,710
I did nine episodes I would say I do

1290
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:41,870
about four episodes a month of the

1291
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:44,510
podcast regularly we did nine yeah last

1292
00:54:50,650 --> 00:54:48,410
year and mostly except for one episode

1293
00:54:53,500 --> 00:54:50,660
each episode was three movies apiece so

1294
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:53,510
I watched three I up for the month

1295
00:54:59,230 --> 00:54:55,610
watching on my own end because of the

1296
00:55:00,700 --> 00:54:59,240
podcast somewhere around like 33 might

1297
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:00,710
have been way more than that actually

1298
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:02,090
because there was once that I stopped

1299
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:04,490
counting cuz I started early anyway

1300
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:07,450
I this year it'll be a little bit

1301
00:55:14,500 --> 00:55:10,130
lessened what I would like to propose

1302
00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:14,510
right now for fun I say for a nice

1303
00:55:17,620 --> 00:55:16,880
little synergy i we might try to get

1304
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:17,630
Nick

1305
00:55:23,529 --> 00:55:20,650
in on this with who you are usually

1306
00:55:25,329 --> 00:55:23,539
cohorts with yes have you guys come on

1307
00:55:27,789 --> 00:55:25,339
but I would love to talk about the

1308
00:55:29,859 --> 00:55:27,799
miniseries absolutely that's it we'll do

1309
00:55:32,049 --> 00:55:29,869
a nice little crossover will re I'll

1310
00:55:34,809 --> 00:55:32,059
repost this bad boy and then we'll also

1311
00:55:36,700 --> 00:55:34,819
talk about the the miniseries for it I

1312
00:55:38,620 --> 00:55:36,710
mean people can have that to look

1313
00:55:40,509 --> 00:55:38,630
forward to come shocked all the time

1314
00:55:43,839 --> 00:55:40,519
awesome and where can we find the

1315
00:55:46,089 --> 00:55:43,849
podcast Andrew you can go to WWF whites

1316
00:55:47,710 --> 00:55:46,099
on the black man calm you can go to half

1317
00:55:49,269 --> 00:55:47,720
white son of a black man on Instagram

1318
00:55:54,690 --> 00:55:49,279
half light some of like men on Facebook

1319
00:55:58,299 --> 00:55:54,700
and at official HWS OBM on Twitter

1320
00:56:00,400 --> 00:55:58,309
options there and I you just type into

1321
00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:00,410
the iTunes or wherever podcasts are

1322
00:56:09,579 --> 00:56:02,089
found oh yeah that's the thing

1323
00:56:13,109 --> 00:56:09,589
iTunes I forgot yeah an impromptu review

1324
00:56:15,670 --> 00:56:13,119
of it guys go see it in theaters now and

1325
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:15,680
let us know what you think once we post

1326
00:56:21,339 --> 00:56:18,319
this please feel free to contact us let

1327
00:56:22,779 --> 00:56:21,349
us know your thoughts and we will maybe

1328
00:56:24,490 --> 00:56:22,789
even read some of them on the next

1329
00:56:26,529 --> 00:56:24,500
episode of somewhere in this guy's we we

1330
00:56:28,450 --> 00:56:26,539
shall see nice cool man

1331
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all right Andrew thank you for joining

1332
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me all the way from New York one coast

1333
00:56:40,980 --> 00:56:34,789
and the other and congratulations on the

1334
00:56:45,730 --> 00:56:40,990
wedding my friend oh thanks I will see

1335
00:56:51,530 --> 00:56:45,740
wink wink wink wink nudge nudge oh and

1336
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:53,930
[Music]

1337
00:57:00,140 --> 00:56:54,160
[Applause]

1338
00:57:03,230 --> 00:57:00,150
[Music]

1339
00:57:11,540 --> 00:57:03,240
[Applause]

1340
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somewhere in the skies is produced by

1341
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Third Kind productions in association

1342
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with antica productions and the antic a